In Plato’s Meno, Socrates and Meno turn from the question of virtue to the question whether anyone desires “evil”. Socrates asks whether such a man thinks the evils he desires to be good or knows them to be evil, and the exchange passes on the meaning of desire as “possession”. The passage is a principal source of the Socratic teaching on the object of desire, and it sits under this term for that reason.
Read in contextSOCRATES. Then are there some who desire the evil and others who desire the good? Do not all men, my dear sir, desire good?
MENO. I think not.
SOCRATES. There are some who desire evil?
MENO. Yes.
SOCRATES. Do you mean that they think the evils which they desire, to be good; or do they know that they are evil and yet desire them?
MENO. Both, I think.
SOCRATES. And do you really imagine, Meno, that a man knows evils to be evils and desires them notwithstanding?
MENO. Certainly I do.
SOCRATES. And desire is of possession?
MENO. Yes, of possession.
SOCRATES. And does he think that the evils will do good to him who possesses them, or does he know that they will do him harm?
MENO. There are some who think that the evils will do them good, and others who know that they will do them harm.
SOCRATES. And, in your opinion, do those who think that they will do them good know that they are evils?
MENO. Certainly not.
SOCRATES. Is it not obvious that those who are ignorant of their nature do not desire them; but they desire what they suppose to be goods although they are really evils; and if they are mistaken and suppose the evils to be goods they really desire goods?
MENO. Yes, in that case.
