In Plato’s Charmides, Socrates and the young Charmides are considering whether temperance could be a knowledge of itself, and Socrates tests the thought by the cases of the “greater” and the “less”, the double and the half, which are always of another. The dialogue seeks a definition of temperance, and this passage is among the earliest in the Greek tradition to examine relatives as such. It sits under correlatives for that reason.
Read in contextJust as that which is greater is of a nature to be greater than something else?
Yes.
Which is less, if the other is conceived to be greater?
To be sure.
And if we could find something which is at once greater than itself, and greater than other great things, but not greater than those things in comparison of which the others are greater, then that thing would have the property of being greater and also less than itself?That, Socrates, he said, is the inevitable inference.
Or if there be a double which is double of itself and of other doubles, these will be halves; for the double is relative to the half?That is true.
And that which is greater than itself will also be less, and that which is heavier will also be lighter, and that which is older will also be younger: and the same of other things; that which has a nature relative to self will retain also the nature of its object: I mean to say, for example, that hearing is, as we say, of sound or voice. Is that true?Yes.
Then if hearing hears itself, it must hear a voice; for there is no other way of hearing.
